I have recently purchased a brand new Sig P365 pistol from the Walnut Creek Outdoors online store. Prior to placing the order, I specifically called the store to confirm that the firearm being sold is new with no condition issues. I was told that they have three in stock and was assured that they are all brand new.
After finalizing the order, I received a request from Danny (online sales) for a copy of the FFL dealer license, after which he sent me a confirmation with a tracking number. So far so good.
Approximately 5-6 days later, I received a notification from the carrier that the firearm has been delivered to my FFL dealer. Since I went to the store shortly after receiving the notification, the FFL dealer staff had not yet had a chance to process the item, so the package was opened with me present in the store. After opening the case, I discovered that my brand new firearm has multiple scratches on the right side of the slide.
I quickly took a few pictures and asked the FFL dealer staff for a recommendation of what should be done in a case like this. They told me that this issue should be settled with the seller. So, i completed the transfer, went home and called Walnut Creek Outdoors, looking for a reasonable resolution.
First, I spoke with Tanner from the retail store. After I explained the issue to him, he said "it must have cоme scratched from the factory." I seriously doubt that, but regardless - that's not a customer's problem, is it? Furthermore, I was told that Danny, who processes the online orders, CANNOT BE REACHED BY PHONE and can be contacted only via email. Nobody else but Danny can resolve this issue for me.
Ok, I thought, not a very good level of customer service, but I'll work with your processes.
I reached out to Danny via email, explained the issue and attached several hi-resolution images showing the extent of the damage. He quickly responded, stating that the firearm did not leave their warehouse in this condition and suggesting that it was damaged by my FFL dealer, so I should "get them to admit it." I responded that I was there when the firearm was unpackaged, so I know for a fact that it arrived this way. So, I said, I would appreciate your support in resolving this matter - either a return and replace (covering all shipping and transfer costs) or a reasonable discount given the condition of the firearm, as is typically done, for example, when a floor model or a unit with cosmetic imprefections is being sold.
Danny went on to sending multiple emails to my FFL dealer asking if the damage was done by them and misrepresenting what I had written to him to avoid responsibility. When the FFL dealer copied me in the conversation, Danny "thanked" them for "copying the customer on our private communication" and stated that since "... the transfer has been made, the condition of the firearm is between the two of you."
After receiving this response, I was no longer interested in dealing with Danny in any capacity. I called the store back and requested to speak with the CEO of Walnut Creek Outdoors, Jim Norton. I was told that he wasn't in the store at the moment, but if I leave him a voice message, Jim will call me back as soon as he gets in. I never received a call from him.
For a company whose website claims to have "... best of all great customer service to local and online customers throughout the world" -
I reached out to the firearm manufacturer, Sig Sauer, who have promptly offered to take care of the issue directly. I will also make sure that Sig Sauer is aware of the kind of service Walnut Creek Outdoors is offering to...
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In response to the āownerā.
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