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Ted's Montana Grill
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Old West-style steakhouse chain known for its burgers & chops made from bison.
Nearby attractions
Keiser University Tallahassee
1700 Plantation Cir, Tallahassee, FL 32309
Dr. Q Art Studio
1535 Killearn Center Blvd STE C4, Tallahassee, FL 32309
Market Square Shopping Center
1471 Timberlane Rd, Tallahassee, FL 32312
Nearby restaurants
Walk-On's Sports Bistreaux - Tallahassee Restaurant
3390 Capital Cir NE, Tallahassee, FL 32308, United States
Persis Indian Grill
3305 Capital Cir NE Suite 104, Tallahassee, FL 32308
Outback Steakhouse
1820 Raymond Diehl Rd, Tallahassee, FL 32308
Steak 'n Shake
3394 Capital Cir NE, Tallahassee, FL 32308
Zaxbys Chicken Fingers & Buffalo Wings
3325 Capital Cir NE, Tallahassee, FL 32308
Village Inn
3392 Lonnbladh Rd, Tallahassee, FL 32308
Texas Roadhouse
3131 Capital Cir NE, Tallahassee, FL 32308
Chick-fil-A
3101 Capital Cir NE, Tallahassee, FL 32308
The Bistro - Eat. Drink. Connect.®
1972 Raymond Diehl Rd, Tallahassee, FL 32308
McAlister's Deli
3425 Thomasville Rd, Tallahassee, FL 32309
Nearby hotels
TRYP by Wyndham Tallahassee North I-10 Capital Circle
1978 Village Green Way, Tallahassee, FL 32308
Courtyard by Marriott Tallahassee North/I-10 Capital Circle
1972 Raymond Diehl Rd, Tallahassee, FL 32308
Residence Inn by Marriott Tallahassee North/I-10 Capital Circle
1880 Raymond Diehl Rd, Tallahassee, FL 32308
Extended Stay America Suites- Tallahassee - Killearn
1950 Raymond Diehl Rd, Tallahassee, FL 32308
Hampton Inn & Suites Tallahassee I-10-Thomasville Rd
3388 Lonnbladh Rd, Tallahassee, FL 32308
Holiday Inn Express Tallahassee - I-10 E by IHG
1653 Raymond Diehl Rd, Tallahassee, FL 32308
Drury Plaza Hotel Tallahassee
1690 Raymond Diehl Rd, Tallahassee, FL 32308
Hilton Garden Inn Tallahassee
3333 Thomasville Rd, Tallahassee, FL 32308
SpringHill Suites by Marriott Tallahassee North
1481 Timberlane Rd, Tallahassee, FL 32312
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Ted's Montana Grill
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Ted's Montana Grill

1954 Village Green Way, Tallahassee, FL 32308
4.4(1.3K)$$$$
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Old West-style steakhouse chain known for its burgers & chops made from bison.

attractions: Keiser University Tallahassee, Dr. Q Art Studio, Market Square Shopping Center, restaurants: Walk-On's Sports Bistreaux - Tallahassee Restaurant, Persis Indian Grill, Outback Steakhouse, Steak 'n Shake, Zaxbys Chicken Fingers & Buffalo Wings, Village Inn, Texas Roadhouse, Chick-fil-A, The Bistro - Eat. Drink. Connect.®, McAlister's Deli
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Phone
(850) 561-8337
Website
tedsmontanagrill.com

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Featured dishes

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dish
Kid's Chicken Tenders
dish
Kid's Bison Cheeseburger
dish
Kid’s Bison Steak
dish
50/50 Fries & Onion Rings
dish
Baked Potato (AFTER 4PM ONLY)
dish
Parmesan Roasted Broccoli
dish
Fresh Cut French Fries
dish
Salt & Pepper Onion Rings
dish
Apple Pecan Crisp
dish
Brownie
dish
Ted's Wildberry Cheesecake
dish
Ted's Bacon Cheeseburger
dish
Skinny Dip Burger
dish
Delicious Duo
dish
Canyon Creek
dish
1977 Americas Cup
dish
Avalon Burger
dish
George's Cadillac Burger
dish
Chicken Chopped Salad
dish
Big Sky Grilled Salad
dish
Grilled Caesar
dish
Balsamic Blue Steak Salad
dish
Bottled Spring Water
dish
Coca-Cola Classic
dish
Boylan’s Root Beer
dish
Boylan Crème Soda
dish
Bottled Sparkling Water
dish
Chili And Caesar Salad
dish
Chopped Salad
dish
Chili And Wedge Salad
dish
Caesar Salad
dish
Wedge
dish
St. Phillip's Crab Cakes
dish
Absolute Best Fish Sandwich
dish
Bison Delmonico Ribeye (14 Oz)
dish
Bison Filet (8 Oz)
dish
Beef Delmonico Ribeye (14 Oz)
dish
Bison New York Strip (12 Oz)
dish
Beef Filet (8 Oz)
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Bison Brisket
dish
Bison Short Ribs
dish
Salt & Pepper Onion Rings
dish
St. Phillip's Island Crab Cake
dish
Homemade Chips
dish
Karen's "Flying-D" Bison Chili
dish
Snowcrest Chicken Fried
dish
Red Rock Chicken Sandwich
dish
Brick Chicken Plate
dish
Chicken Skinny Dip Sandwich
dish
Snowcrest Chicken Grilled

Reviews

Nearby attractions of Ted's Montana Grill

Keiser University Tallahassee

Dr. Q Art Studio

Market Square Shopping Center

Keiser University Tallahassee

Keiser University Tallahassee

3.1

(15)

Open until 8:00 PM
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Dr. Q Art Studio

Dr. Q Art Studio

5.0

(8)

Open until 6:00 PM
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Market Square Shopping Center

Market Square Shopping Center

4.5

(111)

Open 24 hours
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Things to do nearby

Tallahassee Murder Mystery: Solve the case!
Tallahassee Murder Mystery: Solve the case!
Mon, Dec 1 • 12:00 AM
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Sacred Soul Sessions - A Guided Meditation & Journaling Experience
Sacred Soul Sessions - A Guided Meditation & Journaling Experience
Wed, Dec 10 • 6:00 PM
625-9 Railroad Square, Tallahassee, FL 32310
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Members Holiday Shop Night at lululemon
Members Holiday Shop Night at lululemon
Wed, Dec 10 • 8:00 PM
1817 Thomasville Road #ste 530, Tallahassee, FL 32303
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Nearby restaurants of Ted's Montana Grill

Walk-On's Sports Bistreaux - Tallahassee Restaurant

Persis Indian Grill

Outback Steakhouse

Steak 'n Shake

Zaxbys Chicken Fingers & Buffalo Wings

Village Inn

Texas Roadhouse

Chick-fil-A

The Bistro - Eat. Drink. Connect.®

McAlister's Deli

Walk-On's Sports Bistreaux - Tallahassee Restaurant

Walk-On's Sports Bistreaux - Tallahassee Restaurant

4.5

(1.0K)

$$

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Persis Indian Grill

Persis Indian Grill

4.2

(449)

$$

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Outback Steakhouse

Outback Steakhouse

4.0

(1.6K)

Click for details
Steak 'n Shake

Steak 'n Shake

3.7

(1.4K)

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Christina LittlejohnChristina Littlejohn
My family drove 4.5 hours to come to Tallahassee to see our mother who is in a rehab center. We have been driving back and forth from Clearwater because she was in a head on collision. I had Ted's saved in my phone on maps as a place I wanted to visit. As we were driving I told my husband there was a restaurant we had to go check out. Teds!!! I was super excited to check it out. We pull up to our hotel and realize Teds is right next door! I was so happy! I wanted to try the bison ribs or steak. I am allergic to cow and gluten. I can't eat beef or dairy. I typically cook with ground bison and have had one bison steak. I hate to say it but was not impressed. I read the reviews and didn't think we would experience what we did. We came in around 8:30pm. It wasn't overly busy. The food took forever. The food was fine but nothing special. It really didn't have a lot of flavor. I'm assuming because I can't eat any butter and that's what they use to cook with. I was upset to hear I couldn't eat the ribs or brisket because they had gluten. Their was no seasoning on the bison NY strip either. For $38 dollars it should have been. I am happy they accommodated my allergies and cooked it separately. I appreciate that they had a gluten free menu too. The broccoli was over cooked and mushy. No flavor at all. The fries were excellent. Our kids had the macaroni and cheese with fries. I was very impressed with the kids meal. The portion was great! They loved it. My husband ordered a bison bacon burger with fries. He unfortunately didn't get his burger until later on in the meal after we got our food. After he ate half his burger his fries finally came. The fixings were brought on the side too. He thought with the price he shouldn't have to make his own burger. The server wasn't exceptional either. It wasnt her fault the food didn't come out in time. She didn't offer a discount or bring anything special. Not necessary but would have been nice. I had to ask for ketchup. She brought us one small ramican. We had for of us with fries. I expected a server to be much better at Teds. Especially in an upscale restaurant. She was not very hospitable and acted like she didnt really care. In my opinion you should be welcoming and warm. Do things with excellence and accommodate as much as possible. Either she is lacking training or just doesn't have the personality. Overall she wasn't anything special. She didn't ask if we were celebrating anything or what bring us in tonight. My husband was asking if a drink was included in the kids meal. It's hard for him to look at people. She rudely asked, "Are you talking to me or her," because he was looking at me while asking. The rest of the meal we didn't get asked if our water need to be filled either. She seemed rushed and not very engaged. A server makes the experience. I think a different server would have given us a better experience. Overall the food portions are great. I think we will try it again when we are in town because it is rare to find bison. I hope we don't get the same server when we do visit again. I think I will try the bison burger next time. I would love to see more gluten free dairy free options with pizazz.
Andy LewisAndy Lewis
Several basic restaurant rules were violated during our first visit to this restaurant chain. When we arrived at 6:05 on a Friday night, we were told it would be a one hour wait. It ended up being 95 minutes. When it comes to wait times, always under promise and over deliver. Worse then the long wait was the fact that many people who arrived after us, or who complained, got seated before us. The host was sympathetic, but acknowledged that this was happening. That’s just insulting. We got a nice booth, and our server Briana was pleasant. However, it took 20 minutes to get our drinks. Then our entree’s arrived before we even received our appetizer of shrimp. This was after I was asked to confirm that we ordered a shrimp appetizer 5 minutes after we placed our orders. At that point, we told her to skip the appetizer. The correct response would have been, “ let me hit that for you and comp the appetizer. Also when we were seated by the host, I asked him what he would recommend. He said the food was fabulous but the only thing he could afford was the bacon cheese burger. When I asked him about the bison short ribs, he said his girlfriend’s father raved about them. Seriously, management needs to make sure the staff has sampled everything on the menu so they can make recommendations based on first hand experience. This is restaurant management 101. I had the bison short ribs, garlic mashed, and carrots. The food could have been hotter but was outstanding. My wife had the planked salmon, garlic mashed and broccoli. She was also pleased. We skipped dessert as we had already been at the restaurant for 2 1/2 hours. Honestly, I don’t know if I would return. The food was good but the service was abysmal.
Jarrod HenJarrod Hen
My co-workers and i went here for dinner the night before we had to do job in Tallahassee because it was right next to the hotel. The food I had tasted really good but my meal was a bit generic to be honest. I got the nachos (which was an app) which is $12.00 and and I got 50/50 fries and onion rings for $5.00. The nachos tastes good but we're pretty generic as you can see. They used 100% plain chips, tomatoes, onions, ect. and it seemed like they took a can of chili and poured it on top. It was good but I honestly make better nachos at home for cheaper. 🤨😒Now the fries and onion rings came out on a side plate and instead of a pile like u expect there were just enough to cover the bottom of the plate and got 3 lousy onion rings. 😒☹️. I tried a piece of the ”Bison Burger 🍔” someone let me try and it was good but didn't seem worth $3.00 more than a regular Burger. The biggest reason they lost 2 stars wasn't because of the food quality but we all said the same thing once we got outside. Because they need to make up for when they were closed prices are higher and portions are smaller. Their portion sizes are really small for the prices. We spent an average of $25 a person and we all left hungry still. We spent an hour and a half there and they weren't overly busy. The staff was really friendly so we over looked the fact that it took us 25 minutes to get our bills when we were done because they were closing by the time we left. So pretty much u will get good food but you are going to pay for less than portion size is worth.
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My family drove 4.5 hours to come to Tallahassee to see our mother who is in a rehab center. We have been driving back and forth from Clearwater because she was in a head on collision. I had Ted's saved in my phone on maps as a place I wanted to visit. As we were driving I told my husband there was a restaurant we had to go check out. Teds!!! I was super excited to check it out. We pull up to our hotel and realize Teds is right next door! I was so happy! I wanted to try the bison ribs or steak. I am allergic to cow and gluten. I can't eat beef or dairy. I typically cook with ground bison and have had one bison steak. I hate to say it but was not impressed. I read the reviews and didn't think we would experience what we did. We came in around 8:30pm. It wasn't overly busy. The food took forever. The food was fine but nothing special. It really didn't have a lot of flavor. I'm assuming because I can't eat any butter and that's what they use to cook with. I was upset to hear I couldn't eat the ribs or brisket because they had gluten. Their was no seasoning on the bison NY strip either. For $38 dollars it should have been. I am happy they accommodated my allergies and cooked it separately. I appreciate that they had a gluten free menu too. The broccoli was over cooked and mushy. No flavor at all. The fries were excellent. Our kids had the macaroni and cheese with fries. I was very impressed with the kids meal. The portion was great! They loved it. My husband ordered a bison bacon burger with fries. He unfortunately didn't get his burger until later on in the meal after we got our food. After he ate half his burger his fries finally came. The fixings were brought on the side too. He thought with the price he shouldn't have to make his own burger. The server wasn't exceptional either. It wasnt her fault the food didn't come out in time. She didn't offer a discount or bring anything special. Not necessary but would have been nice. I had to ask for ketchup. She brought us one small ramican. We had for of us with fries. I expected a server to be much better at Teds. Especially in an upscale restaurant. She was not very hospitable and acted like she didnt really care. In my opinion you should be welcoming and warm. Do things with excellence and accommodate as much as possible. Either she is lacking training or just doesn't have the personality. Overall she wasn't anything special. She didn't ask if we were celebrating anything or what bring us in tonight. My husband was asking if a drink was included in the kids meal. It's hard for him to look at people. She rudely asked, "Are you talking to me or her," because he was looking at me while asking. The rest of the meal we didn't get asked if our water need to be filled either. She seemed rushed and not very engaged. A server makes the experience. I think a different server would have given us a better experience. Overall the food portions are great. I think we will try it again when we are in town because it is rare to find bison. I hope we don't get the same server when we do visit again. I think I will try the bison burger next time. I would love to see more gluten free dairy free options with pizazz.
Christina Littlejohn

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Several basic restaurant rules were violated during our first visit to this restaurant chain. When we arrived at 6:05 on a Friday night, we were told it would be a one hour wait. It ended up being 95 minutes. When it comes to wait times, always under promise and over deliver. Worse then the long wait was the fact that many people who arrived after us, or who complained, got seated before us. The host was sympathetic, but acknowledged that this was happening. That’s just insulting. We got a nice booth, and our server Briana was pleasant. However, it took 20 minutes to get our drinks. Then our entree’s arrived before we even received our appetizer of shrimp. This was after I was asked to confirm that we ordered a shrimp appetizer 5 minutes after we placed our orders. At that point, we told her to skip the appetizer. The correct response would have been, “ let me hit that for you and comp the appetizer. Also when we were seated by the host, I asked him what he would recommend. He said the food was fabulous but the only thing he could afford was the bacon cheese burger. When I asked him about the bison short ribs, he said his girlfriend’s father raved about them. Seriously, management needs to make sure the staff has sampled everything on the menu so they can make recommendations based on first hand experience. This is restaurant management 101. I had the bison short ribs, garlic mashed, and carrots. The food could have been hotter but was outstanding. My wife had the planked salmon, garlic mashed and broccoli. She was also pleased. We skipped dessert as we had already been at the restaurant for 2 1/2 hours. Honestly, I don’t know if I would return. The food was good but the service was abysmal.
Andy Lewis

Andy Lewis

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My co-workers and i went here for dinner the night before we had to do job in Tallahassee because it was right next to the hotel. The food I had tasted really good but my meal was a bit generic to be honest. I got the nachos (which was an app) which is $12.00 and and I got 50/50 fries and onion rings for $5.00. The nachos tastes good but we're pretty generic as you can see. They used 100% plain chips, tomatoes, onions, ect. and it seemed like they took a can of chili and poured it on top. It was good but I honestly make better nachos at home for cheaper. 🤨😒Now the fries and onion rings came out on a side plate and instead of a pile like u expect there were just enough to cover the bottom of the plate and got 3 lousy onion rings. 😒☹️. I tried a piece of the ”Bison Burger 🍔” someone let me try and it was good but didn't seem worth $3.00 more than a regular Burger. The biggest reason they lost 2 stars wasn't because of the food quality but we all said the same thing once we got outside. Because they need to make up for when they were closed prices are higher and portions are smaller. Their portion sizes are really small for the prices. We spent an average of $25 a person and we all left hungry still. We spent an hour and a half there and they weren't overly busy. The staff was really friendly so we over looked the fact that it took us 25 minutes to get our bills when we were done because they were closing by the time we left. So pretty much u will get good food but you are going to pay for less than portion size is worth.
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Reviews of Ted's Montana Grill

4.4
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3.0
1y

My family drove 4.5 hours to come to Tallahassee to see our mother who is in a rehab center. We have been driving back and forth from Clearwater because she was in a head on collision. I had Ted's saved in my phone on maps as a place I wanted to visit. As we were driving I told my husband there was a restaurant we had to go check out. Teds!!! I was super excited to check it out. We pull up to our hotel and realize Teds is right next door! I was so happy! I wanted to try the bison ribs or steak. I am allergic to cow and gluten. I can't eat beef or dairy. I typically cook with ground bison and have had one bison steak. I hate to say it but was not impressed. I read the reviews and didn't think we would experience what we did. We came in around 8:30pm. It wasn't overly busy. The food took forever. The food was fine but nothing special. It really didn't have a lot of flavor. I'm assuming because I can't eat any butter and that's what they use to cook with. I was upset to hear I couldn't eat the ribs or brisket because they had gluten. Their was no seasoning on the bison NY strip either. For $38 dollars it should have been. I am happy they accommodated my allergies and cooked it separately. I appreciate that they had a gluten free menu too. The broccoli was over cooked and mushy. No flavor at all. The fries were excellent. Our kids had the macaroni and cheese with fries. I was very impressed with the kids meal. The portion was great! They loved it. My husband ordered a bison bacon burger with fries. He unfortunately didn't get his burger until later on in the meal after we got our food. After he ate half his burger his fries finally came. The fixings were brought on the side too. He thought with the price he shouldn't have to make his own burger. The server wasn't exceptional either. It wasnt her fault the food didn't come out in time. She didn't offer a discount or bring anything special. Not necessary but would have been nice. I had to ask for ketchup. She brought us one small ramican. We had for of us with fries. I expected a server to be much better at Teds. Especially in an upscale restaurant. She was not very hospitable and acted like she didnt really care. In my opinion you should be welcoming and warm. Do things with excellence and accommodate as much as possible. Either she is lacking training or just doesn't have the personality. Overall she wasn't anything special. She didn't ask if we were celebrating anything or what bring us in tonight. My husband was asking if a drink was included in the kids meal. It's hard for him to look at people. She rudely asked, "Are you talking to me or her," because he was looking at me while asking. The rest of the meal we didn't get asked if our water need to be filled either. She seemed rushed and not very engaged. A server makes the experience. I think a different server would have given us a better experience. Overall the food portions are great. I think we will try it again when we are in town because it is rare to find bison. I hope we don't get the same server when we do visit again. I think I will try the bison burger next time. I would love to see more gluten free dairy free options...

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1.0
2y

Edit: Sent my contact information to the provided email 5 days ago and never received a response. Lots of empty promises from this restaurant.

I wish I could say that I enjoyed my time at Ted's Montana and for a second there it almost happened. So, I booked a reservation for a table for 2 at 6:30 pm to celebrate my 7th anniversary between myself and my fiancee. We got to the restaurant at 6:18 pm and we got seated right away. Everything went downhill afterwards. Our waitress and waiter (one of them was training) took our drink order. After drinks arrived, we got our orders taken. We waited and waited, and before we knew it we checked our clocks and about an hour had passed since our order was taken. The waiter came by and told us food would be coming out soon multiple times. We said thank you and kept waiting, another 20 minutes went by and nothing. We had another event we had to go to at 7:30pm and I had to call them to push it back because we had still not gotten our food. Thankfully we were able to push it back. Thats when the manager came by to tell us that the food order had not been placed. We were both shocked and the manager offered her apologies and told us the food would be out soon. We told her that today was our anniversary and that we had an event we had to push back due to the delay. She just said that the food would be coming out. We didn't want to be rude so we said thank you. We didn't end up getting our food closer to 8 pm. Our waitress came back to check on us a couple of times. Once we were almost done, our waitress stopped by and mentioned that "the manager is taking care of our check". We were so relieved that the staff was going to take care of their mistake in some way and she even mentioned that we would get dessert "on the house". We thought, wow! They really want to make this right with us, but little did we know this was WAY OFF. We received our dessert at about 8:10 pm and we had to speed it up since our other event started at 8:40pm. We watched a tabletop of 20 come after us, was served and left before we got our check back. However, about 8:25 pm the waitress came back with the check charging us for EVERYTHING. NO DISCOUNT, NO NOTHING for the major inconvenience that night. I am not sure what kind of restaurant says , "we will take care of the check and the dessert is on the house" and still charges customers for everything. This was utterly disrespectful that not only was our food order was forgotten, the delay caused us to delay other events in the night celebrating our anniversary but to add insult to injury the staff claimed to take care of the bill and charged us for EVERYTHING. This is definitely not the way to conduct business or treat your customers. Utterly...

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2.0
35w

We came in there for my birthday party. 6 people made a reservation and was still sat outside. In the patio area. Hot muggy, insects, biting. Status next to what seems to be a co-worker of theirs. Talking on her phone on speakerphone.As loud as can be. Orders were taken, not sure, if not put in right or what happened, but things that were supposed to have no onions and onions, things that we're supposed to have onions did not have onions. When the baked potato came out, it had onions. When she went to get a new one, they were all of a sudden out. My kids did not eat all of their burgers, they said it tasted funny. Instead of the server comping anything off the meal. She gave us all of our checks. Even after the several complaints that we had from food tasting odd between the burger, the huge chunk of fat in the bison delmonico which, as an ex butcher usually doesn't have that much. I feel like that was just a standard ribeye. Delmonicos are different, as they have a decent size tail. As well as marbling. Then the broccoli tasted off putting. All this was brought up to the server and nothing was done. We should not have left as big of a tip. Because she should have said something to a manager, at least taking off the burgers that we're not eating and a percentage of the steak because of the flavor and the amount of fat. I left the same reviews in the email I received today. Just not as long I think this will be my first and only trip to this restaurant. I mean, they didn't even offer a dessert or anything. As a manager of a restaurant that was right across the street at 1 time. This is not. How you run a restaurant. On top of that, a few of us had stomach issues later on that evening. Not saying it was necessarily the restaurant's fault. As we did go to the movies, but I did not eat a bunch of sweets and my stomach was fine prior. Again, i'm not blaming just a weird coincidence. But I am not the only 4 out of six of us have the same issue. As I'm leaving this review, my daughter just told me about a hair and her Mac and cheese. I told her next time she needs to speak up. This is a lot of complaints. I'm sure, but this is ridiculous. My kids are adults, but they're not that old 19 and 21 trying to treat me to a good meal. Hopefully next time they learned, but they tried not to complain. I'm gonna complain on here, so maybe you guys can read...

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