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Zaftigs Delicatessen — Restaurant in Brookline

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Zaftigs Delicatessen
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Contemporary destination serving traditional Jewish cuisine in a homey atmosphere.
Nearby attractions
Praise Shadows Art Gallery
313A Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02446
John Fitzgerald Kennedy National Historic Site
83 Beals St, Brookline, MA 02446, United States
The Plein-Air Art Academy
1386B Beacon St, Brookline, MA 02445
Diana Stelin Gallery
1386b Beacon St, Brookline, MA 02446, United States
Griggs Park
33 Griggs Rd, Brookline, MA 02446
Winthrop Square
St Paul St & Freeman St, Brookline, MA 02445
Lawton Playground
Brookline, MA 02446, United States
Paradise Rock Club
967 Commonwealth Ave, Boston, MA 02215
Grace City Church
1187 Beacon St, Brookline, MA 02446
Amory Playground
Freeman St &, Amory St, Brookline, MA 02446
Nearby restaurants
Ganko Ittetsu Ramen
318 Harvard St #3, Brookline, MA 02446
Jin’s fine Asian cuisine sushi bar (brookline)
329 Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02446
Pure Cold Press
326 Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02446
BOTTEGA Fiorentina
313B Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02446
Coolidge Corner Clubhouse
307 Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02446, United States
Rami's
324 Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02446
J.P. Licks
Coolidge Corner, 311 Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02445
Miraku Boston
9 Babcock St, Brookline, MA 02446
Paris Creperie
278 Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02446
Maruichi Select
299 Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02446
Nearby local services
Touru Hair Studio
313 Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02446
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344 Harvard St Unit B, Brookline, MA 02446
Coolidge Corner Theatre
290 Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02446
Maruichi Japanese Food & Deli
306 Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02446
Buffalo Exchange
312 Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02446
Giovanni Hair Design
313 Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02446
Village Vinyl & Hi Fi
307 Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02446
Brookline Booksmith
279 Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02446
Boston General Store
305 Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02446
Arcade Building
318 Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02446
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40 Webster St, Brookline, MA 02446
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1385 Beacon St, Brookline, MA 02446
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30 Webster St, Brookline, MA 02446
Arcadian Hotel
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Maverick Suites
89 Marion St, Brookline, MA 02446
Samuel Sewall Inn
143 St Paul St, Brookline, MA 02446
Coolidge Corner Guest House
17 Littell Rd, Brookline, MA 02446
The Beech Tree Inn
83 Longwood Ave, Brookline, MA 02446
Longwood Inn
123 Longwood Ave, Brookline, MA 02446
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Zaftigs Delicatessen

335 Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02446
4.4(1.1K)$$$$
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Contemporary destination serving traditional Jewish cuisine in a homey atmosphere.

attractions: Praise Shadows Art Gallery, John Fitzgerald Kennedy National Historic Site, The Plein-Air Art Academy, Diana Stelin Gallery, Griggs Park, Winthrop Square, Lawton Playground, Paradise Rock Club, Grace City Church, Amory Playground, restaurants: Ganko Ittetsu Ramen, Jin’s fine Asian cuisine sushi bar (brookline), Pure Cold Press, BOTTEGA Fiorentina, Coolidge Corner Clubhouse, Rami's, J.P. Licks, Miraku Boston, Paris Creperie, Maruichi Select, local businesses: Touru Hair Studio, WangPC Computer Service, Coolidge Corner Theatre, Maruichi Japanese Food & Deli, Buffalo Exchange, Giovanni Hair Design, Village Vinyl & Hi Fi, Brookline Booksmith, Boston General Store, Arcade Building
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Phone
(617) 975-0075
Website
zaftigs.com
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Sun8 AM - 8 PMClosed

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Featured dishes

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dish
Chicken Matzo Ball Soup - Quart (Cold)
dish
Loaded Latkes
dish
Mediterranean Trio
dish
Turkey Chili
dish
Lenox Omelette
dish
Roughrider Omelette
dish
Breakfast Burrito
dish
Cornbeef Hash & Eggs
dish
Fried Egg BLT
dish
Lox, Onion, & Scrambled Eggs
dish
Zaftig Breakfast Sandwich
dish
Western Benedict
dish
Banana Stuffed French Toast
dish
K- Silver Dollar Pancakes
dish
Zaftig Salad
dish
Bacon Grilled Cheese
dish
BYO Deli Sandwich
dish
Fried Atlantic Haddock Sandwich
dish
Grilled Pastrami & Swiss
dish
Roast Beef Wrap
dish
Falafel Wrap
dish
Patty Melt
dish
Turkey Wrap
dish
Latke Piccata
dish
Zaftig Fish & Chips
dish
K- Bagel & Lox
dish
K- Challah French Toast
dish
K- Cheese Quesadilla
dish
K- Silver Dollar Pancakes
dish
Egg Cream
dish
Zaftig's Soda
dish
Black & White Cookie
dish
Brownie
dish
Chocolate Chip Cookie
dish
Egg Cream
dish
Potato Salad
dish
Scoop Chopped Liver
dish
Blintzes

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Nearby attractions of Zaftigs Delicatessen

Praise Shadows Art Gallery

John Fitzgerald Kennedy National Historic Site

The Plein-Air Art Academy

Diana Stelin Gallery

Griggs Park

Winthrop Square

Lawton Playground

Paradise Rock Club

Grace City Church

Amory Playground

Praise Shadows Art Gallery

Praise Shadows Art Gallery

4.6

(10)

Open 24 hours
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John Fitzgerald Kennedy National Historic Site

John Fitzgerald Kennedy National Historic Site

4.6

(225)

Closed
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The Plein-Air Art Academy

The Plein-Air Art Academy

5.0

(11)

Closed
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Diana Stelin Gallery

Diana Stelin Gallery

5.0

(13)

Closed
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Ganko Ittetsu Ramen

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Rami's

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Miraku Boston

Paris Creperie

Maruichi Select

Ganko Ittetsu Ramen

Ganko Ittetsu Ramen

4.5

(986)

$

Open until 9:00 PM
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Jin’s fine Asian cuisine sushi bar (brookline)

Jin’s fine Asian cuisine sushi bar (brookline)

4.2

(215)

$$

Open until 9:20 PM
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Pure Cold Press

Pure Cold Press

4.6

(269)

$

Open until 12:00 AM
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BOTTEGA Fiorentina

4.2

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Touru Hair Studio

Touru Hair Studio

4.9

(339)

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WangPC Computer Service

WangPC Computer Service

4.7

(218)

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Coolidge Corner Theatre

Coolidge Corner Theatre

4.8

(855)

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4.6

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Megan ZalenasMegan Zalenas
If you’re looking for a spot to cure your craving for freshly-sliced corned beef and pastrami sandwiches you must give Zaftigs Deli a try! I decided to give it a try the other night! They’re most famous for their ginormous sandwiches, but their menu doesn’t disappoint! The establishment does offer breakfast service and a solid breakfast menu. There, you’ll find breakfast burritos, French toast, pancakes, blintzes, omelettes, eggs Benedict, and Zaftigs breakfast sandwich. They also have unique offerings, like potato pancakes, corn beef hash and eggs, fried-egg BLTs, pastrami scrambles, lox and scrambled eggs, fresh fruit, oatmeal, smoked salmon and avocado toast, and so much more! They also offer a solid selection of sides to go with your breakfast, as well as a solid bakery/pastry selection! While I have yet to try their breakfast, I am confident in saying it will be incredible. Breakfast is served until close! This time, I decided to give their lunch/dinner menu a browse. They have a wide variety of soups, starters, sandwiches, salads, Latkes, Signature Entrees, burgers, patty melts, and a huge menu of Signature Sandwiches! For those with a sweet tooth, they have a solid bakery/sweets selection that is sure to please! I decided to order “The New Yorker Sandwich”. This sandwich includes 12-ounces of hot pastrami, corned beef, Swiss cheese, sauerkraut, thousand island dressing- all served on light rye with your choice of side. The side selection could certainly be improved! The fries were food-service grade, very poor quality fries to serve with a great sandwich. They should be offering hand-cut fries. The potato salad and coleslaw is also unfortunately very disappointing. The sandwich was MASSIVE. You can easily split a signature sandwich with another person, it’s PLENTY of food! Even with your side dish, they also include half-sour pickle, green tomatoes, & a full-sour pickle. The portions here are incredibly generous and the food is phenomenal! I do wish they offered sides of sauce as an available add-on. I’d also love to see the side dish options greatly improved. The quality of the sides is very poor and the selection is nearly non-existent. I look forward to eating here again! If you’re hungry and craving a piping hot reuben/corned beef- you have to give Zaftigs a try! You won’t be disappointed! Everything was delivered piping hot and packed with care. We both were full after splitting their sandwich and ordering an appetizer or two! The price is well worth the portion sizes offered here. If they could just improve the quality and selection of dessert and side-dish items, they’d earn that fifth star from me!
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Elias PapadopoulosElias Papadopoulos
Great food at an affordable price. Sunday brunch is an experience to cherish as it seems half of Brookline is here enjoying it. It will not disappoint, especially the cornbeef hash and eggs.
Alex BesmerAlex Besmer
Rating Reflection: 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟“Great” barely scratches the surface when describing the Zaftigs experience. It’s a culinary landmark that’s a must-visit, transcending the boundaries of Massachusetts with its universal appeal for breakfast, brunch, or lunch. Homey Decor: 🏠💺Stepping into Zaftigs is like entering a classic diner, complete with an ambiance that feels like home. The setup strikes a perfect balance, offering ample space for comfortable conversations while still maintaining that vibrant city diner buzz. Service Excellence: 🙋‍♂️☕The service at Zaftigs is consistently top-notch. The staff’s attention to detail, from constant beverage refills to prompt and accurate order handling, ensures every dining experience is nothing short of perfect. Culinary Delight: 🍲🥞Zaftigs sets the gold standard for food quality. The menu, though not overly extensive, is meticulously crafted, featuring Jewish delicacies alongside beloved brunch classics. The Matzah Ball Soup is a heartwarming nod to tradition, served just right - piping hot. The apple and cheddar omelet, a delightful blend of sweet and savory, defies expectations, while the French Toast, served to my girlfriend, redefines fluffiness. Every dish is a testament to Zaftigs’ commitment to culinary excellence. In Retrospect: 🤔Zaftigs isn’t just a deli; it’s an institution that celebrates the joy of dining. Whether it’s the wait, the season, or the dish, the experience at Zaftigs is worth every moment. Final Verdict: ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ - “Great”“Zaftigs: Where Every Meal Feels Like Coming Home.” For an unforgettable dining experience that feels like a warm embrace, Zaftigs Delicatessen is the place to be. It’s more than food; it’s a feast for the soul. 🍴❤️🥞
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If you’re looking for a spot to cure your craving for freshly-sliced corned beef and pastrami sandwiches you must give Zaftigs Deli a try! I decided to give it a try the other night! They’re most famous for their ginormous sandwiches, but their menu doesn’t disappoint! The establishment does offer breakfast service and a solid breakfast menu. There, you’ll find breakfast burritos, French toast, pancakes, blintzes, omelettes, eggs Benedict, and Zaftigs breakfast sandwich. They also have unique offerings, like potato pancakes, corn beef hash and eggs, fried-egg BLTs, pastrami scrambles, lox and scrambled eggs, fresh fruit, oatmeal, smoked salmon and avocado toast, and so much more! They also offer a solid selection of sides to go with your breakfast, as well as a solid bakery/pastry selection! While I have yet to try their breakfast, I am confident in saying it will be incredible. Breakfast is served until close! This time, I decided to give their lunch/dinner menu a browse. They have a wide variety of soups, starters, sandwiches, salads, Latkes, Signature Entrees, burgers, patty melts, and a huge menu of Signature Sandwiches! For those with a sweet tooth, they have a solid bakery/sweets selection that is sure to please! I decided to order “The New Yorker Sandwich”. This sandwich includes 12-ounces of hot pastrami, corned beef, Swiss cheese, sauerkraut, thousand island dressing- all served on light rye with your choice of side. The side selection could certainly be improved! The fries were food-service grade, very poor quality fries to serve with a great sandwich. They should be offering hand-cut fries. The potato salad and coleslaw is also unfortunately very disappointing. The sandwich was MASSIVE. You can easily split a signature sandwich with another person, it’s PLENTY of food! Even with your side dish, they also include half-sour pickle, green tomatoes, & a full-sour pickle. The portions here are incredibly generous and the food is phenomenal! I do wish they offered sides of sauce as an available add-on. I’d also love to see the side dish options greatly improved. The quality of the sides is very poor and the selection is nearly non-existent. I look forward to eating here again! If you’re hungry and craving a piping hot reuben/corned beef- you have to give Zaftigs a try! You won’t be disappointed! Everything was delivered piping hot and packed with care. We both were full after splitting their sandwich and ordering an appetizer or two! The price is well worth the portion sizes offered here. If they could just improve the quality and selection of dessert and side-dish items, they’d earn that fifth star from me!
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Great food at an affordable price. Sunday brunch is an experience to cherish as it seems half of Brookline is here enjoying it. It will not disappoint, especially the cornbeef hash and eggs.
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Rating Reflection: 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟“Great” barely scratches the surface when describing the Zaftigs experience. It’s a culinary landmark that’s a must-visit, transcending the boundaries of Massachusetts with its universal appeal for breakfast, brunch, or lunch. Homey Decor: 🏠💺Stepping into Zaftigs is like entering a classic diner, complete with an ambiance that feels like home. The setup strikes a perfect balance, offering ample space for comfortable conversations while still maintaining that vibrant city diner buzz. Service Excellence: 🙋‍♂️☕The service at Zaftigs is consistently top-notch. The staff’s attention to detail, from constant beverage refills to prompt and accurate order handling, ensures every dining experience is nothing short of perfect. Culinary Delight: 🍲🥞Zaftigs sets the gold standard for food quality. The menu, though not overly extensive, is meticulously crafted, featuring Jewish delicacies alongside beloved brunch classics. The Matzah Ball Soup is a heartwarming nod to tradition, served just right - piping hot. The apple and cheddar omelet, a delightful blend of sweet and savory, defies expectations, while the French Toast, served to my girlfriend, redefines fluffiness. Every dish is a testament to Zaftigs’ commitment to culinary excellence. In Retrospect: 🤔Zaftigs isn’t just a deli; it’s an institution that celebrates the joy of dining. Whether it’s the wait, the season, or the dish, the experience at Zaftigs is worth every moment. Final Verdict: ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ - “Great”“Zaftigs: Where Every Meal Feels Like Coming Home.” For an unforgettable dining experience that feels like a warm embrace, Zaftigs Delicatessen is the place to be. It’s more than food; it’s a feast for the soul. 🍴❤️🥞
Alex Besmer

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Reviews of Zaftigs Delicatessen

4.4
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2.0
5y

I don't usually leave reviews. But this one has been bothering me since yesterday.

Took the wife out for our Saturday lunch date. We were in Brookline and I was craving A Corned Beef Rubin. When I mentioned it to my wife she said she wanted Matzo Ball Soup.

At the suggestion of a manager of another store, we ended up Zaftigs Deli on Harvard Street.

We were really excited, the place was not very busy. From what I can see, 5 tables (maybe 6) had people at them. When we had been seated they seated us in a corner by the door, on the back side of a wall, away from everyone else already seated and out of view of everyone else also. At that point i just knew what was about to happen. Yes, the service was TERRIBLE. It took me standing up, and looking around to get someone's attention. The server even said "Ohhh, I didnt see you there." From there it was just straight down hill.

Everytime we needed anything I had to stand up to our servers attention.

So, 20 minutes after being seated we finally got our order taken.

First order of business, Bloody Mary's. Second our Matzo ball soup comes out the server puts the soup down and walks away. No, silverware, no napkins, nothing but a sticky table.

I then have to stand up and get the servers attention to get utensils, napkins, salt and pepper. (Salt & Pepper she brings us, 4 each of the smallest paper packets you'd ever received, so obviously I had to ask for more) it was a good thing we asked for more because, the Matzo Ball soup itself was bland. The Matzo balls were just OK... probably because they took on the taste of the bland soup. literally 2 minutes after getting the soup our entrees are dropped off at the table, (I have had like 2 spoonfuls of soup at this point.)

My wife order a breakfast entree Corned Beef Hash and two eggs. (She specifically asked for her hash to be well done... NOT...) eggs, were like rubber frisbees... her hashbrowns potatoes, where deep fried potatoes the size of golf balls. And also bland as hell.

My lunch should have been easy to make. Corned Beef Rubin... 4 ingredients... but what I ended up with was overcooked boiled pastrami... (yes people I know the difference...) totally tasteless... other than the water it was boiled in. The Sauerkraut also bland... the Russian Dressing, was the only thing that had taste. But, a last, there was just barely enough to taste it. And the last ingredient Pumpernickel Bread, which was unfortunately soggy because the Corned Beef (or in this case as I mentioned the "Pastrami") and the Sauerkraut was never drained properly. Therefore, it also tasted like the water from them both. And basically fell apart with each bite.

Just so you understand why I gave two stars, we actually enjoyed the Bloody Mary's we ordered. Even though they were tiny... just a heads up, they are 10 oz glasses filled with ice. If you're lucky you get about 5 oz.s of Bloody Mary for the cheap price of $10 each. Someone needs to re-evaluate their drink prices or sizes for that pricem. If you gonna charge $10 each. You may want to at least give $10 worth of Bloody Mary...

Now again I don't usually leave reviews but... this just had to be put out there.

Oh and Zaftigs... if your gonna display best of Boston awards that are like 20 years old, work on your food to reflect those awards... maybe just maybe, you may get a new award... because this experience for was NOT worthy of anything but this...

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4.0
2y

If you’re looking for a spot to cure your craving for freshly-sliced corned beef and pastrami sandwiches you must give Zaftigs Deli a try!

I decided to give it a try the other night! They’re most famous for their ginormous sandwiches, but their menu doesn’t disappoint!

The establishment does offer breakfast service and a solid breakfast menu. There, you’ll find breakfast burritos, French toast, pancakes, blintzes, omelettes, eggs Benedict, and Zaftigs breakfast sandwich.

They also have unique offerings, like potato pancakes, corn beef hash and eggs, fried-egg BLTs, pastrami scrambles, lox and scrambled eggs, fresh fruit, oatmeal, smoked salmon and avocado toast, and so much more!

They also offer a solid selection of sides to go with your breakfast, as well as a solid bakery/pastry selection! While I have yet to try their breakfast, I am confident in saying it will be incredible. Breakfast is served until close!

This time, I decided to give their lunch/dinner menu a browse. They have a wide variety of soups, starters, sandwiches, salads, Latkes, Signature Entrees, burgers, patty melts, and a huge menu of Signature Sandwiches! For those with a sweet tooth, they have a solid bakery/sweets selection that is sure to please!

I decided to order “The New Yorker Sandwich”. This sandwich includes 12-ounces of hot pastrami, corned beef, Swiss cheese, sauerkraut, thousand island dressing- all served on light rye with your choice of side. The side selection could certainly be improved!

The fries were food-service grade, very poor quality fries to serve with a great sandwich. They should be offering hand-cut fries. The potato salad and coleslaw is also unfortunately very disappointing.

The sandwich was MASSIVE. You can easily split a signature sandwich with another person, it’s PLENTY of food! Even with your side dish, they also include half-sour pickle, green tomatoes, & a full-sour pickle.

The portions here are incredibly generous and the food is phenomenal! I do wish they offered sides of sauce as an available add-on. I’d also love to see the side dish options greatly improved. The quality of the sides is very poor and the selection is nearly non-existent.

I look forward to eating here again! If you’re hungry and craving a piping hot reuben/corned beef- you have to give Zaftigs a try! You won’t be disappointed!

Everything was delivered piping hot and packed with care. We both were full after splitting their sandwich and ordering an appetizer or two! The price is well worth the portion sizes offered here.

If they could just improve the quality and selection of dessert and side-dish items, they’d earn that fifth...

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1.0
1y

A disaster at best..Spent $92.00 on a weekend brunch for two...Corned Beef & Pastrami sandwiches 2) for takeout...(2) Containers of matzo Ball soup...pickles,,potato salad...small chopped liver.. The sandwiches for $20.00+ were not edible..Twice as much bread..half-filled with chucks of old meat...Tasted like a bread sandwich..not fresh..I am a serious cook & put together large political events here & in DC...I know how to cook well... The soup tasted like tasteless water...no flavor..noodles were stuck together...never drained..Called the restaurant right away- waited almost 10 minutes for the assistant manager to pick up. Started to speak about this food we received in a polite way, but he literally hung up on me..Said he was too busy to talk about the poor food and situation.Literally clicked the phone down in the middle of this conversation... In the end l had to find & reach out to the owner of the place after 4 days to resolve an unethical, unprofessional, lack luster food in a major part of Brookline..I travel nationally on a monthly basis and would never recommend this place..Many lonely people go there and hang out with a cup of coffee and bagel...I am not one of them..This is my first time ordering here. Some of the worst food I have eaten in an (authentic?)deli anywhere..High prices and low quality...Rude help...We were unable to finish our with food and emptied our plates into the trash disposal... Never recommend this disturbing place and the people they choose to hire...with a tip it came to over $124.+.The owner understood but would not credit me back on my card..Had to accept a restaurant credit only to be used again at the same place.....So they basically kept our money...Sorry that i cannot recommend other dishes.. It is rare that we were not able to even finish eating these 2 fatty chunks of beef stuffed 1/3 full of uneatable meat & bland/watery quarts of chicken soup..Also got pickles..4 bagels and cream cheese ..Impossible to believe we were charged almost $125.00 without delivery..they have none....Please..i love good food..eat out often and this was a horrible...

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