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Me'nate Steak Hub • Melaka Raya
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A Famosa
Jln Parameswara, Banda Hilir, 78000 Alor Gajah, Melaka, Malaysia
Muzium Istana Kesultanan Melaka
Jln Kota, Banda Hilir, 75000 Melaka, Malaysia
Proclamation of Independence Memorial
Memorial Pengisytiharan Kemerdekaan, Jln Parameswara, Banda Hilir, 75000 Malacca, Malaysia
Church of Saint Paul, Malacca
1935, Jln Kota, Banda Hilir, 75000 Melaka, Malaysia
Taming Sari Tower (Malacca Tower)
Jln Merdeka, Banda Hilir, 75000 Melaka, Malaysia
The Malay and Islamic World Museum
Jln Kota, Banda Hilir, 75000 Melaka, Malaysia
Poh San Teng Temple
Jalan Puteri Hang Li Poh, Kampung Bukit China, 75100 Melaka, Malaysia
Dutch Square (Red Square) Melaka
Banda Hilir, 75200 Malacca, Malaysia
Malaysia Prison Museum
Jln Parameswara, Kampung Bandar Hilir, 75000 Melaka, Malaysia
Sultan's Well, Perigi Hang Li Poh
Jalan Puteri Hang Li Poh, Kampung Bukit China, 75100 Melaka, Malaysia
Nearby restaurants
Restoran Nyonya Makko
123, Jln Merdeka, Taman Melaka Raya, 75000 Melaka, Malaysia
Ee Ji Ban Chicken Rice Ball
275, Jalan Melaka Raya 3, Taman Melaka Raya, 75000 Melaka, Malaysia
Signature Claypot Cuisine
No 174, 174A & 174B, Jln Merdeka, Taman Melaka Raya, 75000 Melaka, Malaysia
Restoran Ole Sayang
198 & 199, Taman Melaka Raya, 75000, Melaka, Malaysia
New Good World Restaurant
131-132, Taman Melaka Raya, 75000 Melaka, Malaysia
ATLANTIC NYONYA @ MELAKA RAYA
100, Jln Merdeka, Taman Melaka Raya, 75000 Melaka, Malaysia
Happy Wei Wei Kopitiam
298, Jalan Melaka Raya 2, Taman Melaka Raya, 75000 Melaka, Malaysia
Uncle Don's non halal (Malacca)
Kompleks, No. 1, Jln Merdeka, Melaka Raya, 75000, Malacca, Malaysia
東昇園海鮮家 Restoran Tong Sheng
377 & 378, Jalan Melaka Raya 6, Taman Melaka Raya, 75000 Melaka, Malaysia
Harbor Village Crab House 海口人海鲜餐馆
175, Jln Merdeka, Taman Melaka Raya, 75000 Melaka, Malaysia
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Me'nate Steak Hub • Melaka Raya

185, Jln Merdeka, Taman Melaka Raya, 75000 Melaka, Malaysia
4.5(1.1K)$$$$
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attractions: A Famosa, Muzium Istana Kesultanan Melaka, Proclamation of Independence Memorial, Church of Saint Paul, Malacca, Taming Sari Tower (Malacca Tower), The Malay and Islamic World Museum, Poh San Teng Temple, Dutch Square (Red Square) Melaka, Malaysia Prison Museum, Sultan's Well, Perigi Hang Li Poh, restaurants: Restoran Nyonya Makko, Ee Ji Ban Chicken Rice Ball, Signature Claypot Cuisine, Restoran Ole Sayang, New Good World Restaurant, ATLANTIC NYONYA @ MELAKA RAYA, Happy Wei Wei Kopitiam, Uncle Don's non halal (Malacca), 東昇園海鮮家 Restoran Tong Sheng, Harbor Village Crab House 海口人海鲜餐馆
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+60 6-281 2540
Website
menate.com.my

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Featured dishes

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Combo B
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Executive Set A
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Combo A
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Executive Set B
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Mushroom Soup With Garlic Bread
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Nachos BBQ Beef
dish
Lamb Shabu
dish
Meatballs
dish
Beef Pepperoni Pizza
dish
All Meat Pizza
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Hawaiian Pizza
dish
Tuna Pizza
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Trio Cheese Pizza
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Beef Aglio E Olio Pasta
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Seafood Aglio E Olio Pasta
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Arrabiata Pasta
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Meatball Bolognese Pasta
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Beef Bolognese Pasta
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Mamamia Beef Carbonara Pasta
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Mamamia Prawn Pasta
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Beef Carbonara Pasta
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Aglio E Olio Pasta
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Seafood Marinara Pasta
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Carbonara Pasta
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Wagyu Burger
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Hawaiian Chicken Burger
dish
Breaded Cheezy Chicken Burger
dish
Lamb Burger
dish
Angus Burger
dish
Wedges
dish
Fries
dish
Mashed Potatoes
dish
Onion Rings
dish
Garlic Bread
dish
Curly Fries
dish
Lamb Loin
dish
Wagyu Striploin
dish
Fresh Salmon Steak
dish
Grain Fed Rib Eye
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Grain Fed Striploin
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Lamb Rack
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Black Angus Rib Eye
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Wagyu Rib Eye
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Black Angus Striploin
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Mac And Cheese With Creamy Streaky Beef
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Mac And Cheese With Creamy Tomato Ground Beef
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Mac And Cheese With BBQ Smokey Beef

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Nearby attractions of Me'nate Steak Hub • Melaka Raya

A Famosa

Muzium Istana Kesultanan Melaka

Proclamation of Independence Memorial

Church of Saint Paul, Malacca

Taming Sari Tower (Malacca Tower)

The Malay and Islamic World Museum

Poh San Teng Temple

Dutch Square (Red Square) Melaka

Malaysia Prison Museum

Sultan's Well, Perigi Hang Li Poh

A Famosa

A Famosa

4.4

(7.8K)

Open 24 hours
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Muzium Istana Kesultanan Melaka

Muzium Istana Kesultanan Melaka

4.4

(1.0K)

Open 24 hours
Click for details
Proclamation of Independence Memorial

Proclamation of Independence Memorial

4.5

(149)

Open 24 hours
Click for details
Church of Saint Paul, Malacca

Church of Saint Paul, Malacca

4.4

(1.0K)

Open 24 hours
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Things to do nearby

Take a guided ride on the wind and green Malacca
Take a guided ride on the wind and green Malacca
Sun, Dec 7 • 8:15 AM
75000, Malacca, Malacca, Malaysia
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Nearby restaurants of Me'nate Steak Hub • Melaka Raya

Restoran Nyonya Makko

Ee Ji Ban Chicken Rice Ball

Signature Claypot Cuisine

Restoran Ole Sayang

New Good World Restaurant

ATLANTIC NYONYA @ MELAKA RAYA

Happy Wei Wei Kopitiam

Uncle Don's non halal (Malacca)

東昇園海鮮家 Restoran Tong Sheng

Harbor Village Crab House 海口人海鲜餐馆

Restoran Nyonya Makko

Restoran Nyonya Makko

3.9

(699)

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Ee Ji Ban Chicken Rice Ball

Ee Ji Ban Chicken Rice Ball

4.0

(1.9K)

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Signature Claypot Cuisine

Signature Claypot Cuisine

4.8

(459)

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Restoran Ole Sayang

Restoran Ole Sayang

3.7

(623)

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Cary CaryCary Cary
Lousy. In short money NOT well spend, steak AWFUL, service AWFUL. Please dont patron this outlet. We went at dinner time (peak) 7.30- 8.30pm, there were no customers. As we walk in, the server( may be the supervisor as he dress differently from the rest ) was attending to a table of about 8-10 people. And there were no one else. We stand at the waiting area , the only server gesture us to sit , so we seated ourselves. Since he just started to attend to that table, we took the menu ourselves. I place my hand on the wooden table and got slimed with sticky gravy. i had to use a wet wipes to wipe it as it was right at my elbow area. Menu looks impressive ( same as the online version we look before) but ...hear the rest of the story. We waited until the only server was done with that only 1 occupied table, but he never return to us though he was the one who saw us coming in and gesture us to sit. We wave our hands, we call them, we even walk right up to a "counter". eventually someone else came to take the order but doesnt speak malay or english well, maybe foreigner. Anyway, we were told to go upfront to chose our meat. I walk up and there were freezers/chiller full of individually packed slice of meat. We wanted tenderloin but there was not a single one, not from the Wagyu, not from the Angus, not from the grass-fed , NONE, disappointing, more disappointingly that first server did not say a single thing to ask as we choose, when we ask simple questions like , do you have so and so, he sounded not willingly to answer ( maybe he had a bad mood? ) Anyway, ordered placed, we ordered medium well. The pasta came the very first , way before the starter. It was not hold or warm, as if it was cook wrongly prior and happen to serve to us? After my kid finish the pasta , finish, then only the starter came, that is quie long isn’t it for a kid to finish a plate of pasta then only starter was serve? Soup was thick, taste ok, bread is stale though, even my other kid say its chewy. Fried broccoli was salty and too much oil. After much wait again ( 30mins or more , looking at my photo time stamp, I ordered before I took a photo of the front shop which timestamp at 7.27pm, pictures of the steak timestamp at 7.57 ) , the steak was served and we ask the girl which is which as we ordered two completey different steak. The girl say don’t know as she is a barista. Where are the SERVERS?? Anyway we just eat since it is only me and my husband. Both of us order medium well but it turns out more like medium or medium rare ( see pictures). The wagyu tasted sour, I don’t know if it is because of the plum sauce? But I ordered mushroom sauce, the plating has red color sauce smeared over it, no description mention about red or plum. The angus has no plum or red sauce but under season. Mash potato is under season too. As we eat halfway we wanted to order drinks , we didn’t order prior because of kids and also not toolet the ice melt too much. We couldn’t get a server again, I don’t know why no one is serving or attending. I walk up to the counter again to order. Once we finish with our food, we sit and chatted and wait very long and the drinks are still not here, just normal fruit drinks, not even ordering complicated custom drinks. I eventually walk to the cashier to cancel the drinks and paid the bill. As I walk back to my table, the “ supervisor” server happen to walk past my table and said “ drinks not here yet?” . I was thinking in my head “ yeah, you are absolutely on point, 100 marks for you!”. I simply said no and walk out. Overall money NOT well spend, steak AWFUL, service AWFUL.
Lillian WangLillian Wang
Me'nate probably serves one of the best steaks in Melaka, as far as I know. Tried the Japanese A5 Wagyu some time last year, it was good. The meat was very tender (melt in the mouth) and well cooked. Food presentation was quite fine. Price was very steep though, RM500++ for one piece of A5 wagyu. The A5 wagyu is not aways available, thus it is advisable to call in to check the availability or to reserve. Besides the A5 wagyu, I have also tried the cheese-baked lobster (Thermidor) yesterday. The freshness of the lobster was guaranteed as it was a live lobster until we ordered it. It was well cooked with generous amount of cheese. I understand from the staff that all their lobsters weight within 800g to 1kg. The lobster is charged at a flat price, RM450 per lobster. So far, I visited Me'nate for their higher-end dishes, thus my bills were pretty steep. However, the restaurant also serves moderate price range dishes. Generally, price is depending on the type/grade of the meat you choose. Tried 2 types of desserts, and I would say they were just so so. The steakhouse is open-aired, i.e., no aircon, just fans, mamak shops or tomyam shop alike. The ambience ain't at all cosy and simply couldn't provide a comfortable dining experience for the high price amount paid. Tables were often not in clean condition when we were seated. Service of the staffs should be improved, especially the attentiveness and the way they answer customer's questions.
AF AR ProductionsAF AR Productions
Had fun eating here with the whole family. If you're going to eat here, set your minds on spending for wagyu or at least Angus beefs. It's only logical to do so, so bring along your credit cards (yes, it's quite expensive). They have the facility for that payment type, no worries. Ordering in itself is an experience. You get to choose your meat at the meat counter. I went for the short ribs, been eyeing on that for quite a while. It looked small at first but when the order came, my lord as seen in the picture, all those ribs almost didn't fit the plate. This is because all the meat are vacuum-packed and frozen on the freezer. I liked how the staffs offered their opinions on how each of the meat are best cooked. I went for the suggested barbeque flavor and never looked back! Despite the meat, the meal came with some fancy curly fries and salad drenched in fancy oil. I ate all of it! It's just so balanced when eating with the meat. Pretty sure the rest of the meal my family ordered tasted the same. The level of cheese against pasta was just nice and the beef bacon 🥓 leveled the flavour with some crunchyness. If you're near any Me'nate outlet, I recommend dining here when you have the money to pay for it.
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Lousy. In short money NOT well spend, steak AWFUL, service AWFUL. Please dont patron this outlet. We went at dinner time (peak) 7.30- 8.30pm, there were no customers. As we walk in, the server( may be the supervisor as he dress differently from the rest ) was attending to a table of about 8-10 people. And there were no one else. We stand at the waiting area , the only server gesture us to sit , so we seated ourselves. Since he just started to attend to that table, we took the menu ourselves. I place my hand on the wooden table and got slimed with sticky gravy. i had to use a wet wipes to wipe it as it was right at my elbow area. Menu looks impressive ( same as the online version we look before) but ...hear the rest of the story. We waited until the only server was done with that only 1 occupied table, but he never return to us though he was the one who saw us coming in and gesture us to sit. We wave our hands, we call them, we even walk right up to a "counter". eventually someone else came to take the order but doesnt speak malay or english well, maybe foreigner. Anyway, we were told to go upfront to chose our meat. I walk up and there were freezers/chiller full of individually packed slice of meat. We wanted tenderloin but there was not a single one, not from the Wagyu, not from the Angus, not from the grass-fed , NONE, disappointing, more disappointingly that first server did not say a single thing to ask as we choose, when we ask simple questions like , do you have so and so, he sounded not willingly to answer ( maybe he had a bad mood? ) Anyway, ordered placed, we ordered medium well. The pasta came the very first , way before the starter. It was not hold or warm, as if it was cook wrongly prior and happen to serve to us? After my kid finish the pasta , finish, then only the starter came, that is quie long isn’t it for a kid to finish a plate of pasta then only starter was serve? Soup was thick, taste ok, bread is stale though, even my other kid say its chewy. Fried broccoli was salty and too much oil. After much wait again ( 30mins or more , looking at my photo time stamp, I ordered before I took a photo of the front shop which timestamp at 7.27pm, pictures of the steak timestamp at 7.57 ) , the steak was served and we ask the girl which is which as we ordered two completey different steak. The girl say don’t know as she is a barista. Where are the SERVERS?? Anyway we just eat since it is only me and my husband. Both of us order medium well but it turns out more like medium or medium rare ( see pictures). The wagyu tasted sour, I don’t know if it is because of the plum sauce? But I ordered mushroom sauce, the plating has red color sauce smeared over it, no description mention about red or plum. The angus has no plum or red sauce but under season. Mash potato is under season too. As we eat halfway we wanted to order drinks , we didn’t order prior because of kids and also not toolet the ice melt too much. We couldn’t get a server again, I don’t know why no one is serving or attending. I walk up to the counter again to order. Once we finish with our food, we sit and chatted and wait very long and the drinks are still not here, just normal fruit drinks, not even ordering complicated custom drinks. I eventually walk to the cashier to cancel the drinks and paid the bill. As I walk back to my table, the “ supervisor” server happen to walk past my table and said “ drinks not here yet?” . I was thinking in my head “ yeah, you are absolutely on point, 100 marks for you!”. I simply said no and walk out. Overall money NOT well spend, steak AWFUL, service AWFUL.
Cary Cary

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Me'nate probably serves one of the best steaks in Melaka, as far as I know. Tried the Japanese A5 Wagyu some time last year, it was good. The meat was very tender (melt in the mouth) and well cooked. Food presentation was quite fine. Price was very steep though, RM500++ for one piece of A5 wagyu. The A5 wagyu is not aways available, thus it is advisable to call in to check the availability or to reserve. Besides the A5 wagyu, I have also tried the cheese-baked lobster (Thermidor) yesterday. The freshness of the lobster was guaranteed as it was a live lobster until we ordered it. It was well cooked with generous amount of cheese. I understand from the staff that all their lobsters weight within 800g to 1kg. The lobster is charged at a flat price, RM450 per lobster. So far, I visited Me'nate for their higher-end dishes, thus my bills were pretty steep. However, the restaurant also serves moderate price range dishes. Generally, price is depending on the type/grade of the meat you choose. Tried 2 types of desserts, and I would say they were just so so. The steakhouse is open-aired, i.e., no aircon, just fans, mamak shops or tomyam shop alike. The ambience ain't at all cosy and simply couldn't provide a comfortable dining experience for the high price amount paid. Tables were often not in clean condition when we were seated. Service of the staffs should be improved, especially the attentiveness and the way they answer customer's questions.
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Had fun eating here with the whole family. If you're going to eat here, set your minds on spending for wagyu or at least Angus beefs. It's only logical to do so, so bring along your credit cards (yes, it's quite expensive). They have the facility for that payment type, no worries. Ordering in itself is an experience. You get to choose your meat at the meat counter. I went for the short ribs, been eyeing on that for quite a while. It looked small at first but when the order came, my lord as seen in the picture, all those ribs almost didn't fit the plate. This is because all the meat are vacuum-packed and frozen on the freezer. I liked how the staffs offered their opinions on how each of the meat are best cooked. I went for the suggested barbeque flavor and never looked back! Despite the meat, the meal came with some fancy curly fries and salad drenched in fancy oil. I ate all of it! It's just so balanced when eating with the meat. Pretty sure the rest of the meal my family ordered tasted the same. The level of cheese against pasta was just nice and the beef bacon 🥓 leveled the flavour with some crunchyness. If you're near any Me'nate outlet, I recommend dining here when you have the money to pay for it.
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4.5
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1.0
1y

Lousy. In short money NOT well spend, steak AWFUL, service AWFUL. Please dont patron this outlet. We went at dinner time (peak) 7.30- 8.30pm, there were no customers. As we walk in, the server( may be the supervisor as he dress differently from the rest ) was attending to a table of about 8-10 people. And there were no one else. We stand at the waiting area , the only server gesture us to sit , so we seated ourselves. Since he just started to attend to that table, we took the menu ourselves. I place my hand on the wooden table and got slimed with sticky gravy. i had to use a wet wipes to wipe it as it was right at my elbow area. Menu looks impressive ( same as the online version we look before) but ...hear the rest of the story. We waited until the only server was done with that only 1 occupied table, but he never return to us though he was the one who saw us coming in and gesture us to sit. We wave our hands, we call them, we even walk right up to a "counter". eventually someone else came to take the order but doesnt speak malay or english well, maybe foreigner. Anyway, we were told to go upfront to chose our meat. I walk up and there were freezers/chiller full of individually packed slice of meat. We wanted tenderloin but there was not a single one, not from the Wagyu, not from the Angus, not from the grass-fed , NONE, disappointing, more disappointingly that first server did not say a single thing to ask as we choose, when we ask simple questions like , do you have so and so, he sounded not willingly to answer ( maybe he had a bad mood? ) Anyway, ordered placed, we ordered medium well. The pasta came the very first , way before the starter. It was not hold or warm, as if it was cook wrongly prior and happen to serve to us? After my kid finish the pasta , finish, then only the starter came, that is quie long isn’t it for a kid to finish a plate of pasta then only starter was serve? Soup was thick, taste ok, bread is stale though, even my other kid say its chewy. Fried broccoli was salty and too much oil. After much wait again ( 30mins or more , looking at my photo time stamp, I ordered before I took a photo of the front shop which timestamp at 7.27pm, pictures of the steak timestamp at 7.57 ) , the steak was served and we ask the girl which is which as we ordered two completey different steak. The girl say don’t know as she is a barista. Where are the SERVERS?? Anyway we just eat since it is only me and my husband. Both of us order medium well but it turns out more like medium or medium rare ( see pictures). The wagyu tasted sour, I don’t know if it is because of the plum sauce? But I ordered mushroom sauce, the plating has red color sauce smeared over it, no description mention about red or plum. The angus has no plum or red sauce but under season. Mash potato is under season too. As we eat halfway we wanted to order drinks , we didn’t order prior because of kids and also not toolet the ice melt too much. We couldn’t get a server again, I don’t know why no one is serving or attending. I walk up to the counter again to order. Once we finish with our food, we sit and chatted and wait very long and the drinks are still not here, just normal fruit drinks, not even ordering complicated custom drinks. I eventually walk to the cashier to cancel the drinks and paid the bill. As I walk back to my table, the “ supervisor” server happen to walk past my table and said “ drinks not here yet?” . I was thinking in my head “ yeah, you are absolutely on point, 100 marks for you!”. I simply said no and walk out. Overall money NOT well spend, steak AWFUL,...

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4.0
5y

Torn between 3 and 4 stars here, gone with 4 as I liked a lot of what I saw and some of the other reviews seem a little harsh.

Firstly the steaks. I am sorry but I did not have a steak. Holy hell did I want one but sadly, I couldn't warrant the splurge. They have an excellent array of high grade steaks available for customers to choose and weigh. You pay per 100g and can choose from I think both wagu and wagyu (wagyu is basically 25% wagu and wagu is the real deal), Angus, corn fed and grass fed beef steaks are all available. You also then choose your cut from tbones, tomahawk, ribeye, fillet, sirloin, ribs etc. There was also plenty of lamb to choose.

A fantastic system, if I were having a special dinner in Melaka, celebrating or whatever then this would be right up my street.

That being said if I were paying £20-50 on a premium steak I would be incredibly disappointed if my chips came out undercooked. I had a burger this evening (closer to £7), it came with undercooked chips and had an unnecessary smothering of sweet white sauce on. Perhaps I should've gone to Mcd.

If they can't do burger and chips to a higher standard then I'm not sure I'd be comfortable asking them to cook one of those steaks either. For the money it should be much better BUT I do feel as though these minor improvements could very easily happen, become consistent and lead to a great restaurant.

I recommend they fix the basics: triple cook the chips, let the customer apply sauces of their choosing and quantity and chuck on some promotions now and then. For me, wine would be good too but perhaps that's asking too much here.

On the other side of the table my wife had a Moroccan beef tagine that came with cous cous. She said it was lovely except the couscous was a little cold.

Fingers crossed for improvement as this place could be fantastic but based solely on what I ate for the money it was scraping 3...

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1.0
46w

Don’t dine here unless you really have no other places to eat. Save your money and cook your own steak through YouTube tutorials.

First off, the steak was sadly not seasoned even with salt and when I ordered medium rare, they not only gave me rare but it was close to undercooked. The veges were cold and not even warm. I was in a bad mood already and I had to finish the steak because I don’t like wasting food and don’t wanna waste my money.

Second, the fries were not fully cooked. We had to tell the staff that it was undercooked and even after that, it was not fully cooked to golden brown.

Third, they forgot my cappuccino order. And we had to ask the waiter at the very end where the order was. One said the coffee machine was broken and then the other waiter came back telling us it can be done in 2 minutes. Unfortunately, by the time we remember, it was already the end of our meal. We canceled the order.

Finally, the staffs were arguing with each other while we were dining in. We sat closest to the kitchen and unfortunately, we had to hear and witness what the argument was for both the chef and the waiter. They were yelling and making fun of each other. One chef even had the audacity to slam the food that he was cooking in what seemingly an act of frustration because of the situation with the waiter. All my family saw what he did.

Side note, we waited outside to be seated because there’s a sign that says “please wait to be seated,” I’ve dined in many restaurants and when there’s signs, I tend to follow them. But alas, we sit ourselves down at the end. At least the waiter came to take our order.

PSA; I don’t leave a lot of reviews when it comes to restaurants, but unfortunately, I did not have a good experience while me and my family dined at Me’nate Steak Hub during my birthday. Probably wanna think twice or even thrice before...

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