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Spoon The Boat
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Moored boat with 2 floors & a lounge, plus a plush restaurant for high-end fusion food.
Nearby attractions
Széchenyi Chain Bridge
Budapest, Széchenyi Lánchíd, 1051 Hungary
Vörösmarty tér
Budapest, Vörösmarty tér 3, 1051 Hungary
Little Princess Statue
Budapest, Belgrád rkp., 1051 Hungary
Vigadó Concert Hall
Budapest, Vigadó tér 2, 1051 Hungary
Vigadó tér
Budapest, Vigadó tér 2, 1051 Hungary
Ferris Wheel of Budapest
Budapest, Erzsébet tér, 1051 Hungary
Várkert Bazár
Budapest, Ybl Miklós tér 2-6, 1013 Hungary
Elizabeth Square
Budapest, Deák Ferenc tér 2, 1052 Hungary
Girl With Her Dog Statue
Budapest, Belgrád rkp., 1056 Hungary
Buda Castle
Budapest, Szent György tér, 1014 Hungary
Nearby restaurants
Dunacorso Étterem
Budapest, Vigadó tér 3, 1051 Hungary
Café Gerbeaud
Budapest, Vörösmarty tér 7-8, 1051 Hungary
BOATanic Terrace & Bar
Budapest, kikötő, Vigadó tér 4, 1051 Hungary
ARZ Lebanese Restaurant
Budapest, Apáczai Csere János u. 12-14, 1052 Hungary
Vígvarjú Étterem
Budapest, Vigadó tér 2, 1051 Hungary
LR Italian Lounge & Restaurant
Budapest, Wekerle Sándor utca 5, 1051 Hungary
Corso
Budapest, Apáczai Csere János u. 12-14, 1052 Hungary
Edison & Jupiter Specialty Cafe and gastrolab
Budapest, Dorottya u. 1, 1051 Hungary
Alelí Budapest
Budapest, Wekerle Sándor utca 3, 1051 Hungary
Sombreros Taqueria Mexican Fast Food
Budapest, Apáczai Csere János u. 17, 1051 Hungary
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D8 Hotel
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Budapest Marriott Hotel
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Dorothea Hotel, Budapest, Autograph Collection
Budapest, Dorottya u. 2, 1051 Hungary
Four Seasons Hotel Gresham Palace Budapest
Budapest, Széchenyi István tér 5-6, 1051 Hungary
Hotel Zenit Budapest Palace
Budapest, Apáczai Csere János u. 7, 1052 Hungary
Supreme City Center Apartment
Budapest, Apáczai Csere János u. 17, 1051 Hungary
Prestige Hotel Budapest
Budapest, Vigyázó Ferenc u. 5, 1051 Hungary
Al Habtoor Palace Budapest, Preferred Hotels & Resorts
Budapest, Erzsébet tér 9-10, 1051 Hungary
Mercure Budapest City Center Hotel
Budapest, Ntak: Sz19000376, Váci u 20, 1052 Hungary
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Spoon The Boat

Budapest, Vigadó tér 3, 1052 Hungary
4.6(2.6K)$$$$
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Moored boat with 2 floors & a lounge, plus a plush restaurant for high-end fusion food.

attractions: Széchenyi Chain Bridge, Vörösmarty tér, Little Princess Statue, Vigadó Concert Hall, Vigadó tér, Ferris Wheel of Budapest, Várkert Bazár, Elizabeth Square, Girl With Her Dog Statue, Buda Castle, restaurants: Dunacorso Étterem, Café Gerbeaud, BOATanic Terrace & Bar, ARZ Lebanese Restaurant, Vígvarjú Étterem, LR Italian Lounge & Restaurant, Corso, Edison & Jupiter Specialty Cafe and gastrolab, Alelí Budapest, Sombreros Taqueria Mexican Fast Food
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+36 30 493 3949
Website
spoonboat.hu

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Grillezett Kacsamell, Polentakrém, Puy Lencseragu, Édeskömény
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Parajos Pappardelle, Lazac, Dió, Pak Choi
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Spoon Caffé
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Nearby attractions of Spoon The Boat

Széchenyi Chain Bridge

Vörösmarty tér

Little Princess Statue

Vigadó Concert Hall

Vigadó tér

Ferris Wheel of Budapest

Várkert Bazár

Elizabeth Square

Girl With Her Dog Statue

Buda Castle

Széchenyi Chain Bridge

Széchenyi Chain Bridge

4.7

(21.4K)

Open 24 hours
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Vörösmarty tér

Vörösmarty tér

4.6

(7.1K)

Open 24 hours
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Little Princess Statue

Little Princess Statue

4.6

(985)

Open until 12:00 AM
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Vigadó Concert Hall

Vigadó Concert Hall

4.8

(1.6K)

Open 24 hours
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Things to do nearby

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Free tour of downtown Budapest, in Spanish
Free tour of downtown Budapest, in Spanish
Mon, Dec 8 • 10:30 AM
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Chimney Cake Workshop in Budapest City Center
Chimney Cake Workshop in Budapest City Center
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Nearby restaurants of Spoon The Boat

Dunacorso Étterem

Café Gerbeaud

BOATanic Terrace & Bar

ARZ Lebanese Restaurant

Vígvarjú Étterem

LR Italian Lounge & Restaurant

Corso

Edison & Jupiter Specialty Cafe and gastrolab

Alelí Budapest

Sombreros Taqueria Mexican Fast Food

Dunacorso Étterem

Dunacorso Étterem

4.5

(1.6K)

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Café Gerbeaud

Café Gerbeaud

4.2

(4.5K)

$$$

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BOATanic Terrace & Bar

BOATanic Terrace & Bar

4.4

(738)

$$

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ARZ Lebanese Restaurant

ARZ Lebanese Restaurant

4.5

(230)

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Orestis -Orestis -
SPOON We visited this particular restaurant on our first evening in Budapest. After dropping off our bags in the hotel room and enjoying a lovely evening stroll, we looked for a place to have a good meal, and this restaurant was a great choice, especially since it was right in front of our hotel. It was around 9:30 PM, and we just made it in time before the kitchen closed in half an hour. We sat at an outdoor table, sheltered from the weather by the deck canopy, with a fantastic view of Buda Castle and the entire Castle Hill. We ordered the Hungarian goulash soup, which, despite the slightly tough meat, was delicious. This raised my expectations, but unfortunately, the Osso Bucco with tomato vegetable ragu and white beans didn't impress me. The Crispy-skinned chicken breast with creamy carrot casserole and freeze-dried green peas was tasty, and even more delicious was the Whole roasted curried cauliflower with coconut. We accompanied our meal with Dreher draft beer, as recommended by the waiter. The ambiance was truly beautiful, at least during the evening hours when we visited, with the lights all lit up. We had a truly wonderful time.
Tibor MagyarTibor Magyar
Ez volt a hét abszolút csalódása. Elvégre van egy hajó, a nem rég lezárt rakparttal szemközt, ahonnan csudálatos kilátás nyílik a Budai Várra, meg a Lánchídra és a Gellért hegyre, szóval a budai oldalra. És ennek a hajónak ez a legnagyobb előnye, szerintem ezért van még életben. Ugyan van mellette pár másik étteremhajó is, ahol ugyanez a látvány tárul evés közben az ember szeme elé, tehát azokkal versenyezve már fel kellene kötni a gatyát, hogy az ember ezt válassza. A hely sajnos úgy néz ki mintha a 80-as évek óta romlana az enteriőr, ez az éttermen, a toaletten, és mindenhol sajnos észrevehető. Főleg a csillárokon, azokat sürgősen cserélni kellene. Ilyen helyeken léphetett fel anno Zámbó Jimmy. A kiszolgálásra nem mondok semmit és akkor azt hiszem kvittek vagyunk. Csak egy véletlennek köszönhető, hogy végül a fantasztikusan gyönyörű kilátást ki tudtuk élvezni. Sose értem, ha nincs lefoglalva miért nem ülhetek oda ahova akarok, és miért vezetnek mindig valami másodosztályú helyre? A svéd királyt várják, hogy beessen? Ha a pincér meg elsőre nem tudja megjegyezni mit is kértünk ajánlanék egy 19. századi újítást, úgy hívják, hogy notesz. Csodákra képes ám. De egyébként mindez végső soron még szórakoztatott is, én aztán nem az vagyok, aki nem értené meg, hogy három óra alvás után az ember kissé hebehurgya, a legnagyobb problémám a hellyel, hogy olyan semmitmondó volt a menü, ami nem illeszkedik egy ennyire jól pozicionált helyhez. Sok helyen adnak vendégváró falatkát, mert valahogy azt érzem, görcsösen erőlködnek hogy adjanak is valamit, mert úgy érzik kell, meg ne is, hogy ne fájjon sokba. Na most ha ilyesmivel sikerül előrukkolni, hogy sült ananász, meg kovászolt spárga, mellé két karika kenyér, és ehetetlen vaj, akkor inkább hagyjuk. Akkor nem kell, mert ha ilyen az üdvözet, milyen lesz a folytatás? A 21. században tudjuk már megmondani tartalmaz e az adott étel glutént - segítek, ha kenyér jár mellé, sanszos, hogy igen. Hogy jót is mondjak, az előételek rendben voltak. Valamiért ezen a héten folyamatosan azt éreztem, az előétel sokkal jobban sikerült, mint a főfogás. A lazactekercs fermentált szilvával különösen jó. A kacsamáj moussenak meg annyi baja csupán, hogy megint kevés a briós, amire rákenjem, meg ez nem chutney, ez lekvár. Az amuse bouche-ból maradt két karika kenyér, ami most igen jól jönne, ha nem kentem volna rá a kenhetetlen vajat. A bőrén sült jérce teljesen átlagos, a folyós rizottó, ami inkább tűnik rizskásának teljesen átitatja, kifejezetten rossz ízt kölcsönöz neki. Meg lehet enni, de nem egy nyerő fogás. A glasszírozott borjúpofa jobb, bár a glasszírt keresni kell rajta, se a csicsókapüré, se a csicseriborsó nem jó párosítás. A desszert a szokásos panna cotta, brownie páros. Unalmas és falatnyi. Így kérek egy-egy fehérkávét, kakaóbabbal de minek nevezzelek? Nem emlékezetes az biztos. A menühöz jár italcsomag, ami ennél az árkategóriánál egy no brainer. A FloWaterről meg van amúgy a véleményem, de nem itt fejtem ki, a pohár bor finom, a kávé átlagos. Az egész menü túl átlagos ehhez a helyhez. Tessék fejlődni. Viszont jó hír, hogy ide legalább valóban megéri betérni étteremhéten, mert bármikor máskor még ez az átlagos menü is a duplája lenne.
S. ChowS. Chow
I had high hopes for Spoon Restaurant, but unfortunately, the experience was disappointing. While the view onboard is undoubtedly the highlight, the service and food quality fell far short of expectations. We ordered the duck breast, snow perch, and Angus burger, but sadly, all three dishes were tough and lacked the tenderness and flavor one would expect from a fine dining establishment. The preparation left much to be desired, with each dish failing to impress. The service was also subpar. Shouldn’t water be served before the bread? And speaking of bread, it arrived cold, which was surprising and not what you’d expect from fine dining, where warm, freshly baked bread is usually the norm. To add to the disappointment, the piano music, which was presumably meant to enhance the ambiance, ended up being a distraction. The pianist occasionally missed keys, and the sound came off as noisy rather than soothing—more of a disruption than a pleasant accompaniment to the meal.
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SPOON We visited this particular restaurant on our first evening in Budapest. After dropping off our bags in the hotel room and enjoying a lovely evening stroll, we looked for a place to have a good meal, and this restaurant was a great choice, especially since it was right in front of our hotel. It was around 9:30 PM, and we just made it in time before the kitchen closed in half an hour. We sat at an outdoor table, sheltered from the weather by the deck canopy, with a fantastic view of Buda Castle and the entire Castle Hill. We ordered the Hungarian goulash soup, which, despite the slightly tough meat, was delicious. This raised my expectations, but unfortunately, the Osso Bucco with tomato vegetable ragu and white beans didn't impress me. The Crispy-skinned chicken breast with creamy carrot casserole and freeze-dried green peas was tasty, and even more delicious was the Whole roasted curried cauliflower with coconut. We accompanied our meal with Dreher draft beer, as recommended by the waiter. The ambiance was truly beautiful, at least during the evening hours when we visited, with the lights all lit up. We had a truly wonderful time.
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Ez volt a hét abszolút csalódása. Elvégre van egy hajó, a nem rég lezárt rakparttal szemközt, ahonnan csudálatos kilátás nyílik a Budai Várra, meg a Lánchídra és a Gellért hegyre, szóval a budai oldalra. És ennek a hajónak ez a legnagyobb előnye, szerintem ezért van még életben. Ugyan van mellette pár másik étteremhajó is, ahol ugyanez a látvány tárul evés közben az ember szeme elé, tehát azokkal versenyezve már fel kellene kötni a gatyát, hogy az ember ezt válassza. A hely sajnos úgy néz ki mintha a 80-as évek óta romlana az enteriőr, ez az éttermen, a toaletten, és mindenhol sajnos észrevehető. Főleg a csillárokon, azokat sürgősen cserélni kellene. Ilyen helyeken léphetett fel anno Zámbó Jimmy. A kiszolgálásra nem mondok semmit és akkor azt hiszem kvittek vagyunk. Csak egy véletlennek köszönhető, hogy végül a fantasztikusan gyönyörű kilátást ki tudtuk élvezni. Sose értem, ha nincs lefoglalva miért nem ülhetek oda ahova akarok, és miért vezetnek mindig valami másodosztályú helyre? A svéd királyt várják, hogy beessen? Ha a pincér meg elsőre nem tudja megjegyezni mit is kértünk ajánlanék egy 19. századi újítást, úgy hívják, hogy notesz. Csodákra képes ám. De egyébként mindez végső soron még szórakoztatott is, én aztán nem az vagyok, aki nem értené meg, hogy három óra alvás után az ember kissé hebehurgya, a legnagyobb problémám a hellyel, hogy olyan semmitmondó volt a menü, ami nem illeszkedik egy ennyire jól pozicionált helyhez. Sok helyen adnak vendégváró falatkát, mert valahogy azt érzem, görcsösen erőlködnek hogy adjanak is valamit, mert úgy érzik kell, meg ne is, hogy ne fájjon sokba. Na most ha ilyesmivel sikerül előrukkolni, hogy sült ananász, meg kovászolt spárga, mellé két karika kenyér, és ehetetlen vaj, akkor inkább hagyjuk. Akkor nem kell, mert ha ilyen az üdvözet, milyen lesz a folytatás? A 21. században tudjuk már megmondani tartalmaz e az adott étel glutént - segítek, ha kenyér jár mellé, sanszos, hogy igen. Hogy jót is mondjak, az előételek rendben voltak. Valamiért ezen a héten folyamatosan azt éreztem, az előétel sokkal jobban sikerült, mint a főfogás. A lazactekercs fermentált szilvával különösen jó. A kacsamáj moussenak meg annyi baja csupán, hogy megint kevés a briós, amire rákenjem, meg ez nem chutney, ez lekvár. Az amuse bouche-ból maradt két karika kenyér, ami most igen jól jönne, ha nem kentem volna rá a kenhetetlen vajat. A bőrén sült jérce teljesen átlagos, a folyós rizottó, ami inkább tűnik rizskásának teljesen átitatja, kifejezetten rossz ízt kölcsönöz neki. Meg lehet enni, de nem egy nyerő fogás. A glasszírozott borjúpofa jobb, bár a glasszírt keresni kell rajta, se a csicsókapüré, se a csicseriborsó nem jó párosítás. A desszert a szokásos panna cotta, brownie páros. Unalmas és falatnyi. Így kérek egy-egy fehérkávét, kakaóbabbal de minek nevezzelek? Nem emlékezetes az biztos. A menühöz jár italcsomag, ami ennél az árkategóriánál egy no brainer. A FloWaterről meg van amúgy a véleményem, de nem itt fejtem ki, a pohár bor finom, a kávé átlagos. Az egész menü túl átlagos ehhez a helyhez. Tessék fejlődni. Viszont jó hír, hogy ide legalább valóban megéri betérni étteremhéten, mert bármikor máskor még ez az átlagos menü is a duplája lenne.
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I had high hopes for Spoon Restaurant, but unfortunately, the experience was disappointing. While the view onboard is undoubtedly the highlight, the service and food quality fell far short of expectations. We ordered the duck breast, snow perch, and Angus burger, but sadly, all three dishes were tough and lacked the tenderness and flavor one would expect from a fine dining establishment. The preparation left much to be desired, with each dish failing to impress. The service was also subpar. Shouldn’t water be served before the bread? And speaking of bread, it arrived cold, which was surprising and not what you’d expect from fine dining, where warm, freshly baked bread is usually the norm. To add to the disappointment, the piano music, which was presumably meant to enhance the ambiance, ended up being a distraction. The pianist occasionally missed keys, and the sound came off as noisy rather than soothing—more of a disruption than a pleasant accompaniment to the meal.
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1.0
2y

Tldr: Avoid this place, don't ruin your evening. Bad service, below average food, stuffy and pretentious.

After reading the reviews, I decided to book a table to enjoy the evening with some friends who were in Budapest for just one night. Service is slow and substandard for the vibe the restaurant is putting off.

No one greeted us upon arriving and after a few minutes I had to wave the waiter over to check our reservation, take our coats and seat us. When reserving I asked for a table with a nice view if possible, and was told they would try to accommodate my request. The restaurant was half empty but we were seated in the middle despite the empty tables by the window. The restaurant itself is stuffy and the decoration is pretentious. A couple of minutes pass and the waiter comes over asking if we were ready to order. When we asked for a few more minutes, he asked if we wanted to order drinks, we asked for some time to look at the menu, and I quote him: "you're not even ready to order drinks now?". At this point we asked to be seated in one of the tables by the window overlooking the Danube, and we were ushered over begrudgingly. We were told food will be served in 10 minutes, and the "kitchen here is quick". Food took 40 minutes to be served. Waiter was rather rude, and we did not feel at all welcome.

We ordered drinks, main courses, and instead of appetizers we ordered the tacos and quesadilla from the "bar snacks" section. The duck tacos were abnormally small; two miniscule tacos were served, each taco the length and width of a thumb, basically bite size. Topped with red cabbage that muted any flavor, these two tacos were extremely overpriced akin to robbery. Similarly, the quesadilla was tiny and wouldn't even suffice as a snack for a child. The main courses were bland, uninspired and overpriced. Portions were small, duck was raw, veal cheek was bland, and the chicken breast was dry. Sides were extremely disappointing and basic. No one came to check how we were enjoying the food.

We decided to end dinner early and head over somewhere else. Hungry and disappointed, we headed to the cloakroom where again, no one was present. When finally someone came over, they handed back our coats and, without asking if we enjoyed anything at all, asked me to leave a review for the place.

Needless to say, my friends' only night in Budapest was ruined, and I will not be recommending this place to anyone for...

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2.0
7y

An average restaurant with great views that sadly does not make the effort.

First of all, the service is not to the standard at all. The staff seemed impersonal and even rude - when a member of our party asked for others to place their order first, the waiter rather sternly instructed them that it had to be done in a specific clockwise order. Not something you expect from a restaurant of this level. Following that, the waiter rather forcibly pushed a significantly more expensive wine that was described as ‘best in Hungary’, even though we specifically asked for house. Then came the overall slow service and missed items: one of us asked for some olive oil for the bread without balsamic vinegar, that only came after a reminder and still with vinegar.

Overall, the vibe is quite tacky. You are greeted with a humongous portrait of the executive chef on the staircase, a rather tasteless display of ego. On the upstairs terrace you are greeted by a pianist playing tired pop standards on a cheap electric piano, throwing in a ‘happy birthday’ jingle once and again. The views across the river are beautiful, but we didn’t really get the benefit of this, as we were facing the other side.

The food itself was good, but not mind blowing. While there were certainly some highlights like the delicate starter of stuffed squid, other dishes were less memorable. The presentation was hit and miss with some dishes just looking messy. There is a good amount of choice - about a dozen mains, but I wish they just spent more time and effort on a smaller selection.

The bill was pretty high by Budapest standards. We left the equivalent of €250 for 5 people (all having starters and mains and a bottle of wine between all of us). The service charge was included at 14%. Considering there are a lot of excellent, and much better value restaurants in the city, I would suggest you...

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1.0
2y

My recent visit to Spoon left me with mixed feelings and a sense of disappointment. I had chosen this restaurant to celebrate a special birthday, and I must say that the service and communication during the event left much to be desired.

One of the major letdowns occurred during the booking process. I had ordered a birthday cake as a surprise for the celebration, and despite requesting confirmation, I never received any acknowledgment of my order. I sent an email inquiry regarding the cake, but to my frustration, I received no response from the restaurant.

Upon arrival at the restaurant, I decided to inquire about the cake once more. The manager assured us that a dessert would be provided as a courtesy, which was appreciated. However, the promised dessert never arrived at our table, even after we reminded the staff. This lack of follow-through on their part was a source of considerable disappointment and frustration.

To add to the confusion, when we asked for the bill, we noticed that one of the desserts had not been charged. While it was a pleasant surprise to not have it on the bill, the absence of communication regarding this deduction and the long wait for the courtesy dessert only further compounded our frustration.

Despite these issues, I must note that the food was quite good, and the ambiance of the restaurant was pleasant. However, the lack of communication, unfulfilled promises, and the subsequent wait for the courtesy dessert significantly marred what should have been a joyful birthday celebration.

In conclusion, my experience at Spoon was disappointing, primarily due to the restaurant's communication and follow-through failures. For a special occasion, such as a birthday celebration, it's essential that a restaurant's service and commitment to customer satisfaction are top-notch, and in this case, that standard...

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